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  • Timothy E. King, MD


    Who is he?

    Dr. Timothy E. King is an anesthesiologist and pain management doctor who has made a career off of testifying against other doctors. He cofounded Midwest Medical Legal Consultants, Inc. in 2015. 

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    Timothy King's Curriculum Vitae 

    His pending patent (an algorithm to "catch" doctors who violate the CSA (Controlled Substance Act)

    Complaint filed about his pending patent

    What's his fee for expert witness work?

    • As of 2017 his hourly rate was $350/hour or $5,000 for a full day of testimony. (He mentions this in his expert witness testimony against Dr. Szyman, transcript linked below).

    What's his total income to date from expert witness work?

    According to the Govtribe, a website that lists funding from the government, he personally made $677,000 since 2013, and his business, Midwest Medical Legal Consultants, Inc., which he cofounded in 2015, has made $1.3 million.

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    USA vs Kudmani 1/23/17

    United States v Charles R. Szyman Transcript of Jury Trial Part 1  11/15/17

    Quotes from this case

    United States v Charles R. Szyman Transcript of Jury Trial Part 2  11/16/17

    Quotes from this case

    USA vs Stelmachowski Summary of King's testimony 2/12/18

    USA vs Akers Transcript10/23/19

    USA vs Wagoner Summary of King's testimony  10/31/19

    United States v Dr. Campbell  Transcript part 1  5/19/21

    Quotes from this case 

    United States v Dr. Campbell  Transcript part 2  5/20/21

    Quotes from this case (in the process of being updated)

    United States v Dr. Bauer  Transcript 1   7/21/21

    Quotes from this case (in the process of being updated)

    United States v Dr. Bauer  Transcript 2  7/13/21

    Quotes from this case (in the process of being updated)

    United States v Dr. Bauer    Transcript part 3  7/14/21

    USA vs Dr. Hofschulz  Transcript  part 1  8/5/21

    USA vs Dr. Hofschulz part 1  Transcript part 2  8/6/21

    Quotes from: United States v CHARLES R. SZYMAN Transcript of Jury Trial  11/15/17  (Part 1)

    "Pain is, at its very base, an unpleasant sensation. It's an unpleasant sensation that may be emotional or it may be real." Pg 23

    "mental illness is frequently and generally made worse with opiate use, particularly a high opiate use." Pg. 45

    "I'm not a vending machine. I'm not -- I'm not there where you put a quarter into, pull the lever, get your Milky-Way or your oxycodone or your OxyContin
    and go on your way." Pg. 46

    "The MEQ, the morphine equivalency. Sometimes referred to as MED, morphine equivalent dose. Everything's compared to morphine. And this came about in the cancer world where we had
    people at end-of-life scenarios that weren't doing too good on one medicine and we needed to convert them from, you know, a Dilaudid or a methadone to morphine. So these are factors such
    that we can compare equivalent doses, equivalent doses. So if you're on 40 milligrams of oxycodone I know that that's equivalent to 40 milligrams of morphine. If you're on 10 milligrams of oxycodone I know that's equivalent to 15 milligrams of morphine." Pg. 47

    "Morphine equivalency becomes important, indeed it becomes a critical part of what we do in pain medicine because there are levels, there are danger levels involved." Pg. 48

    "Because we found that as the morphine equivalency dose goes up, so does the chance of side effects. So does the chance of diversion and abuse. So does the chance of death and overdose. Such that when we hit the beginning of the red zone, which we call the region of extreme concern -- so the red light starts at about 100 to 120. When we enter into that zone at
    about a hundred, again just for ease of talking here, we find something very traumatic occurs
    ." Pg. 49

    "The higher the dose the more likely the patient is either going to be diverting or abusing, the more likely the patient's going to be having significant side effects, and the more likely they are to come into the emergency room for an overdose." Pg.50

    "So it's sort of generally been looked at anything above a hundred, except for terminally ill hospice patients, end-of-life scenarios, but except for those situations for chronic pain management anything above a hundred it's almost impossible to justify." Pg.50

    "because palliative care has come into the scene as a separate specialty they deal with end-of-life scenarios so I don't do that so much anymore." Pg.50

    "So typically for end-of-life scenarios we might be talking about max a couple hundred. Maybe every now and then once in a blue moon we might go above that, but in my experience I've not seen it go above that." Pg.52

    "But you can have at the lower end of the spectrum a dependency on such things as tobacco or caffeine or morphine or other opiates. What that really means is that you're using them in a manner that you're not really able to control your use. You still have a craving for them, but perhaps your life is not totally destroyed. You're not having destructive consequences." Pg 52

    "If the pharmacist calls me up and says, you know what, I just saw Mr. Smith and he came in with wads of cash and some shady individuals and, oh, by the way, he looked like he was inebriated, looked like he could barely walk, then I need to pay attention to my pharmacy colleague who is passing this independent information to me." Pg. 58

    If a patient is -- is coming in for an early refill, has called several times to say that they're out early because they took too many medications and is having a history of stolen or lost medications, those three items — that is to say, lost or stolen meds, early refills and early-outs, we call that the abuse triad.: Pg. 58

    " And we know that if we choose to use opiates it's going to make those mental illness issues worse. It's going to make it worse" Pg. 60

    "I do a physical exam and there's nothing to be found, then I worry that maybe it is the mental illness that is contributing to or causing that pain complaint by the patient, in which case for me to choose an opiate treatment regimen would not be appropriate. I would be doing harm. It's going to make those mental illnesses worse." Pg. 61

    "If I prescribe an opiate with Adderall, that's what we call a prescription speedball. What's a speedball? A speedball is cocaine plus heroin. And we know how deadly that is. How deadly that is. Okay. So if I give you not heroin, if I give you Norco or methadone, and instead of giving you cocaine if I give you Adderall, we got a prescription speedball that may not be quite as dangerous as the cocaine/heroin, but it is dangerous and it causes all kinds of problems and it causes death. if a patient is taking a prescriptive speedball, different rates in metabolism. So you
    may suddenly find as one wears off and the other is still in effect the patient could die of an overdose. They were doing fine till the stimulant wore off and all of the sudden they died in their sleep." Pg. 62-63

    "So it's generally recognized that there's really no medical justification -- really no medical justification for using morphine equivalencies above a hundred. So I looked to see if there are morphine equivalencies above a hundred because that implicates safety and overdose risk." Pg. 75

    "It also has a great deal to do with street value. I didn't say earlier but I will now, typically if you're saying, well, what's the value of my pills if I decide to sell them, it's about more or less one dollar per milligram...So we look at greater than a hundred milligrams both from a street value standpoint and an overdose risk standpoint." Pg. 75

    "Well, they're referencing what I talked about in terms of is the patient being prescribed a recognized high-risk combination like -- for instance, like the Adderall and the opiate or the prescription speedball as I referred to it, or is there a combination of opiate and sedatives which has a huge increased risk of overdose because of the sedation side effects. There are other combinations too. Those are the two big ones that we look for, the combinations." Pg. 76

    "I need to know if the patient's been discharged from other pain doctors before they came to me. Very frequently that's the case. In which case why do I want to try that experiment again?:Pg. 80

    "We would expect that depression, anxiety and bipolar disorder would worsen with -- with opioids and we would particularly expect those diagnoses to get worse with high doses." Pg.95

    "30 milligrams is important. 30 milligram oxycodone is the most street-valued narcotic from a prescriptive standpoint arguably. It's the highest dose of unadulterated oxycodone.
    It's extremely popular out on the street because it can be crushed and then snorted or injected. It has the highest per-milligram value. 30-milligram oxycodones are known to be
    the highest risk of single pain medication in that group." Pg. 96

    "In no case really are headaches acceptable diagnoses for the use of opiates" Pg. 98

    "She did have one urine drug screen that was negative for prescribed hydrocodone, but no action was taken on that" Pg. 99

    And it was noted from a behavorial standpoint that she visited the ER frequently for headaches and it was a, quote, common complaint for her, suggesting that she was going there just to
    get narcotics." Pg. 99

    "when a patient presents to me for pain. management, even though that individual may have been receiving narcotics from another doctor it's up to me to be the gatekeeper.So, no, we don't just accept trading one patient to another and maintaining the narcotics." Pg. 100

    Q "Is the prior use of opioids and the fact that a referral is made some indication that it didn't work?   A "It is absolutely an indication that it didn't work" Pg.100

    But in all likelihood there was opioid-induced hyperalgesia going on which would more likely count for some of the legitimate cases where the patients might have been requesting higher opiates. In other words, it was iatrogenic, the doctor was causing it. He was making the pain worse. He was doing harm." Pg. 102

    "But it goes on to say there are expressed concerns regarding the patient presenting to the pharmacy has large rolls of cash. Is always with a different young man. She questioned our monitoring system." Pg. 116

    "In all likelihood her pain is what we call psychosomatic. She may not be making it up, but it still may be a psychosomatic manifestation of suffering and these would be treated with other than opiates. It needs to be treated with a psychiatric foundation and psychiatric counseling modalities." Pg. 118

    "She had significant anxiety and depression. I wanted to talk about the risk factors on this patient for just a moment. She had significant anxiety and depression that resulted in all likelihood from the history of preadolescent sexual abuse...We are unfortunately aware that preadolescent sexual abuse, particularly in women, young girls, is probably one of the major predictive factors for drug abuse. " Pg. 134

    If we're talking about red flags, if we're talking about as a doctor how to best help the patient and not make it worse particularly from a pain management standpoint, we have to identify risks that have to do with emotional, physical or sexual abuse, particularly in women -- also men, but also in women." Pg. 135

    "In this case her history, preadolescent sexual abuse and subsequent anxiety and depression, is consistent with the pain that she complains of. It's a vague pain. It's a vague pain that nothing on physical exam or imaging shows broken. She had an MRI of her low back, it's normal. It's normal. So again, she's suffering. She's suffering from pain as a result of an emotional trauma. And that needs to be identified. Why does that need to be identified? Because opiates are going to make that worse. Again, make that worse" Pg.135

    "My hourly fee is $350 an hour. And for a day of testimony it's $5,000." Pg.158

    Quotes from: United States v CHARLES R. SZYMAN Transcript of Jury Trial  11/16/17  (Part 2)

    "No, that's where -- as I indicated yesterday, it's verydifficult to be a doctor. You have to be a detective. Our universal precautions dictate to some degree that we be detectives. Well, we expect the doctors especially in this area to verify. So to a certain extent we have to find other ways to verify that what the patient says regarding their increased activity is really true. We may have to contact a family member, we may have to contact an employer, we may have to have other types of verification." Pg. 23

    Question from lawyer to King: "When people walk into a doctor's office with the objective -- I'm sorry, with the subjective intent to deceive them and give them a bunch of false information and mislead them, that's obviously going to have a negative impact on that doctor's ability to properly treat that patient. Agreed?"       King's response: "That occurs in about a third of my patients across the board, and the answer is yes." Pg. 49

    Question from lawyer to King: "And your position is if it's not documented it's not true, right?"  King's response: "That's generally the standard of care, yes." Pg. 51

    "Patients, especially patients who are addicted and have substance abuse problems, have a distorted sense of reality. I would never say the patient lied, Counselor. It's just that their perception of things is not correct and as a physician I have to be aware of that." Pg. 56

    "By definition -- by definition of addiction we know that those patients have control issues, cognitive issues and recurrent problems related to acuteness and what we call executive functions. Their memories aren't good. Their recollection is not accurate. Their perception of what happened in the past is just simply not something we can depend on. What we do depend on is the narrative and the objectiveness of the medical chart." But as a physician, as a specialist in the area of addiction medicine and pain medicine and anesthesiology, I know for a fact
    that there's a rewiring of the brain and the individual cannot change that. That's something that occurs that is with them for the long term. And, therefore, as a physician I have to be aware of
    the fact that when I talk to those patients I may not be getting the full situation, I may not be getting the full truth." Pg. 60

    Question from lawyer to King "Right. Your opinion of the standard of care or your opinion about the standard of care leads to people being prosecuted. That's what you're saying."  King's response " It is one of the factors, yes." Question from lawyer to King: "And when people get prosecuted you get to testify and make your $5,000 a day, right?" King's response: "Well, I do get paid for my time, yes. I am primarily a physician. That's where I make the majority of my -- invest the majority of my time and my income." Pg. 64

    Quotes from USA v Dr. Campbell part 1 5/19/21

    "Since 2015 I've been compensated 8 -- well, personally I've been compensated for approximately 126 hours of work at $350 an hour and that -- I think turned out to be somewhere around 42,000. I had staff involved in this case doing secretarial-type work, administrative work, and that was an additional -- I don't know how many hours, but that amounted to about an additional 40 thousand dollars as well." Pgs. 3-4

    "I've done consulting work for many other cases, yes. In 2013, 2014 I was mostly active with the Attorney General's Office in the state of Indiana doing prosecution of pill mill cases and overprescribing. I also participated with the state of Indiana putting together the rules for appropriate opiate prescribing for chronic pain. That morphed into more of an exposure into the federal pursuit of overprescribing. And I have worked over the last I would say six to eight years -- about 90 percent of my time has been involved working with the Department of Justice, the DEA, the FBI, on overprescribing and pill-mill issues across the nation in various states. About 10 or 15 percent of my time -- may not have my math exactly right, but about 10 or 15 percent of my time has been involved in consulting with medical groups who ask me to come in and do an audit of their practice to make sure they're confirming to appropriate opiate guidelines." Pgs. 4-5

    "But chronic pain is different than acute pain. It's treated differently. The physiology is different. The pharmacology is different. Why is it different? It's different because chronic pain is a combination of psychological discomfort as well as what we call physical or somatic discomfort. It is well understood that pain is -- and I'm going to use a term that I'm going to use as time goes on today and perhaps tomorrow. We need you to be aware of it. It's called biopsychosocial. Bio meaning you may have had an injury, perhaps a back operation. Psycho meaning you're going to have psychological consequences as a result of disability or  injury; depression, anxiety, PTSD perhaps depending on whether it was an accident or other things were going on, but you're going to have a preponderance of psychological issues that need to be dealt with in chronic pain. Social. Social circumstances contribute to drug dependency and can present as what we call somatic complaints of back pain or abdominal pain or chronic headaches. Are they real? Yes, they're real, but in cases of psychological and social contributions to pain, opiates are contraindicated they're not recommended, because they cause problems for pain of emotional etiology. So if an individual's homeless or has horrible financial issues or a terrible, stressful life or -- unfortunately one of the things we see in the social end is we see women mostly but men sometimes who have been victims of preadolescent sexual abuse or physical abuse or emotional abuse but particularly preadolescent sexual and physical abuse is a situation that contributes to psychological pain. It's the way that various traumas -- the body tries to cope with that trauma, deal with it over the years, and it expresses itself as a dependency on medicine. And those patients typically have associated PTSD, severe anxiety, and depression, and bipolar disorder. opiates are not indicated for treatment of psychological and social etiology of pain. It makes those things worse." Pgs. 14-15.

    "But, and I'll sort of close on that question by saying that it has been generally estimated that in 80% of the pain associated with chronic pain is psychological. It's a very careful walk controlled substances or opioids are to be chosen for chronic pain because it will make that 80 percent psychological mental health portion worse and the risk benefit ratio will not be to the benefit of the patient." Pg. 15

    "So the first thing we decide is how much is psychological.  So we evaluate the patient, find out how much depression is playing part in their inability to function, their inability to sleep, their inability to go to work, and we would address that in a nonopiate manner. And then we would address any associating anxiety or any other mental health issues." Pg. 16

    "We are well aware that there are certain conditions that are associated with the aberrant use of controlled substances; aberrancy leading to diversion and addiction. In three broad categories here's what they are and this is...first thing we inquire about is the mental health status of the patient..So we look carefully at the mental health end of things. Is PTSD an issue? Is there a problem with a mental health condition that is causing the pain? And we refer to that as psychosomatic pain. It's real to the patient. Patient's not making it up. But it's being caused by a mental health condition. So we call mental health, the mental health condition risk factors in terms of the use of opiates because they shouldn't -- opiates shouldn't be used in mental health conditions if they're really what's causing the pain, so -risk factors of mental health...Second set of risk factors are what we call social or psychosocial. And, again, we need to understand the patient's history and current living conditions to find out if those factors are contributing to the pain. And you might say, well, how can that contradict to the pain? And I will  remind you all that either yourself or perhaps you have children who at some point said, Hey, I don't want to go to school, dad. I don't want to go to school this morning. Why don't you want to go to school, Nick? Because I have really bad stomachache and I can't go today. Well, what else is going on at school? Well, you know, there's a bully at school who's been picking on me. And so we understand sometimes how social conditions can create what we call somatic pain complaints in the patient. Now, whether we have a kid who doesn't want to go to school, that's one thing, but the same thing exists in the adult population if there has been a traumatic event or series of traumatic events that is causing you to try to avoid life. And avoiding life your brain will interpret that as a chronic pain; head pain, chest pain, abdominal pain, pelvic pain, muscle pain. And we have to identify that, so this second series of risk factors we look for are the social or sometimes called psychosocial separate from the mental health. The psychosocial conditions that are contributing to suffering in that patient. We have to differentiate suffering from --from pain. That's separate discussion, but we have to understand why the patient is suffering so we look at the social issues. Pgs. 26-28

    "But you see what you have to understand is that it's a combination of guidelines and protocols put forth by our professional organizations by the states, by the government, and by peer-reviewed publications. Those are the four main areas that we have input in terms of what works, what doesn't work, and how to properly use opiates. Those are the four things that come together that ultimately then define and practice what is the standard of care. So yes they may have started as guidelines, but they were contributory to defining what the standards were in practice." Pg. 32

    "AMDJ guidelines from Washington were published I think it was 2004. I don't remember the exact dates on those, but those have been fundamental in terms of helping us define the guidelines as well."

    Lawyer: "Do you find all those useful in defining the standard of care?"  King: "I do." Lawyer: "Okay. And are you going to base your opinions we talk about today on those standards of care?" King: "Yes." Pg.33-34

    "It's (RSD/CRPS) what we call diagnosis of exclusion. So we look at all other things before we decide that we're going to assign that diagnosis to a patient. It's very difficult to treat. We don't have any way of curing it. Opiates are not the way to treat it." Pg. 39

    "Polypharmacy in this condition is the combination of an opiate, combined with a benzo., in combo with Soma, which is an addictive muscle relaxant. I'll tell you what it's known as on the street. The street knows it as the Holy Trinity. Why is it street popular? Why has it got the name the Holy Trinity? Because it's highly addictive. It's very dangerous. It disproportionately contributes to respiratory depression and overdose death. And it is -- it is not medically indicated." Pg. 41

    "The polypharmacy combination of the Holy Trinity and then there was a second polypharmacy combination I was going to bring to note that we call a prescription speedball which is combination narcotic and stimulant. It's also appropriate based on standard of care not to prescribe polypharmacy combinations that we know are going to stimulate the probability or possibility of addiction. So these are recognized combinations that since the -- I would say the mid-2000s, maybe earlier than that, we were aware that that should not be prescribed to patients because they're psychiatric medications. They are prone to abuse and street popularity and induce addiction." Pg. 48

    "And by the way, this should occur with every visit going back to universal precaution on every follow-up visit the patient is supposed to have interrogation and documentation." Pg. 56

    "Buprenorphine is a -- what we call an agonist-antagonist. It is a type of opiate, but it's used for treatment of addiction for various reasons and -- well, that's what it is." Pg. 57

    King: "Patient complains two out of ten cervical pain and four out of ten low back pain today with pain medication. Lawyer: "Are those pain scores significant?" King: "Those pain scores are pretty dog on low. We generally feel -- just frame of reference, if somebody's pain score is somewhere at three to four out of ten or below on a scale of one to ten, if it's a VSC, visual analogue score, of three to four out of ten, that's usually a pain score where the patient either does not need pain medications or sophisticated treatment or is at a point where if they're on opioids, they can start to be weaned. Because, again, the end point is function, so if you have a VAS point of two out of ten and four out of ten, that's excellent, and it means if the patient's on opioids you can start to wean at that point." Pg. 63

    Lawyer: "Was there any indication that pain and function improved. as a result of the opioid treatment?"  King: "There was no indication that pain and function improved. The pain score remained high. Patient continued to be unemployed and/or disabled." Lawyer: "And so were the drugs that Dr. Campbell, Mark Dyer, and Dawn Antle gave to Brandon McDonald from December 6, 2012 to April 19, 2014, one, for a legitimate medical purpose?" King: "No they were not." Lawyer: "And written within the usual course of professional practice?" King: "They were not." Pg. 64

     "..left thigh pain secondary to tumor. It also indicates an ongoing pain level six out of ten which is quite significant. If the opiate s had worked in the past, I would expect her to have better pain control. That really tells us she probably failed -- not probably. She did fail past opiate therapy so why do it again." 

    King: "It says patient became angry and started yelling," Lawyer: "Is that a red flag or is this someone truly in pain? " King: "So this is helpful in terms of her diagnosis. when you have an individual who's expressing emotion like this that tends to reinforce the diagnosis of an emotional pain; a pain secondary to psychological suffering. The patient really sees it as real, but the patient really should not have narcotics because opiates...also not indicated for the treatment of psychological pain. She needs to be referred to a Psychiatrist. She needs to be counseled with regard to mental illness issues and with regard to dependency issues. So yes this is an emotional pain. It's what we call psychosomatic pain. Real. But not treated with opiates. " Pg. 74

    "So -- so the benzos are an absolute no-go when you have chronic methadone as part of the regimen." Pg. 84

    "Typically the patients for the robotic partial nephrectomy that we see here would be kept in the hospital assuming no complications for maybe a day or two and then sent home. So they -- and they would not be in need of more than, you know, maybe three days of as-needed opiates for pain relief." Pg. 85

    "There was no indication of improvement of pain or function. She remained unemployed and disabled..." Pg. 87

    "Anything above 90 to a hundred is what we call the region of extreme concern. It's very high risk. And so hers were up in that category. So any time you see a morphine equivalence greater than 90 to a hundred, that's a high-risk situation." Pg. 100

    "If an objective diagnosis is not established, there's no rationale to prescribe controlled substances, therefore anything prescribed would be outside the usual course of medical purpose. " Pg. 100

    King: "discharged as a patient at Dr. Christopher Nelson's office over medication issues. Totally out of medications now." Lawyer: "Is that a red flag?" King: "That's a major red flag. That's a full stop. That means that we've got a history here of aberrant activity..." Pg. 102 

    "so she's up in the what does that make it 140 morphine equivalence category which is above that 90 to a hundred milligram sort of ceiling dose concern that I referenced earlier. When somebody goes above that concern -- here is a figure for you to keep in mind -- the increase in overdose death increases by about ten times  So people who are at that MEQ dose or higher have ten times more increase in overdose death just associated with that dose." Pg. 108

    "Phentermine again is an amphetamine-like stimulant. It works sometimes well for weight loss for short time frames, but when it's combined with an opiate, it's called a prescription speedball. You may have heard of a speedball before. It's terribly addictive. The true speedball is sort of the ultimate stimulant which is cocaine with the ultimate opiate which is heroin, so a speedball is cocaine and heroin." Pg. 109

    "So first one is major depressive disorder, recurrent and severe. Number two is somatization disorder. Somatization -- somatization for purposes of our discussion is psychosomatic pain. It's pain that doesn't have an origin and tissue destruction. It's a representation of emotional suffering. What is the emotional. So emotional suffering, what does that mean? In her case it indicates patient is reporting childhood abuse. And as I mentioned to you earlier, preadolescent sexual abuse is one of the biggest predictors of opiate misuse and addiction." Pg. 111

    "She's been put at extremely high risk because the real diagnosis is emotional pain due to mental illness and her inability to cope with -- with problems related to her preadolescence and she has PTSD depression and anxiety. Those are pretty tell-tale for a unfortunate young woman for someone who suffered physical and emotional abuse as a young child. This should be recognized by any physician practicing pain medicine. It's a major red flag." Pg. 111

    "Well, 80 to 90 percent of the work I do is with federal agencies....At the moment it's certainly a full-time job, yes." Pg. 210-213

    Lawyer: "A full-time consultant reviewing practices using this type of chronology and jumping on the witness stand and testifying exclusively for state and federal enforcement agencies?" King: "Well, the majority of my work has come from federal sources, but I'll also consult with attorney groups, insurance groups, and medical practices." Lawyer: "But you've never sat on the stand and testified on behalf of an actual practicing physician in a federal or state case, correct?" King: "That is correct."

    Quotes from USA v Dr. Campbell part 2  5/20/21 

    "We have found -- we have not found any that opiates improve function in the case of chronic pain." Pg 26

    "The addiction and mental illness needs to be optimized and controlled before the pain can be addressed and we understand that because psychological contradictions to pain are overwhelming and if we don't address the psychological and addiction concerns first, pain's not going to be controlled." Pg. 40

    Quotes from USA v Dr. Bauer  part 1  7/12/21

    "There's a sort of a part two to that, in the sense that back -- well, I've spent a lot of time with the Attorney General's Office, State of Indiana, where they asked me to come in back in the early part of 2012, 2013 to assist in the states putting together of appropriate opioid protocols. Most of the state boards did, Ohio did it as well. But they asked me to participate on -- on the committee for Indiana. As part of that, I also worked with the Attorney General's Office on specific cases. Cases that they brought, were bringing to the medical board for overprescribing or pill mill type operations. And I guess that's a long way of saying as I worked there, and I had a little niche place in the back office, the investigators would sometimes bring me cases that had not actually been brought to maturity, but ones that they were concerned about and would ask me my opinions. So I did a fair amount of consulting in that regard on cases that the state was not sure whether it merited proceeding to medical board action." ~Dr. Tim King, Pg. 51

    "I've consulted in criminal prosecutions, Civil suits (both in Federal and state court)." ~Dr. Tim King. Pg. 51

    "Well, in the business you're referring to, so the jury understands, is my consulting practice. In the beginning, and by in the beginning I mean around 2012 or so, or prior to 2012 I had been involved in offering my expertise to the federal government from time to time." ~Dr. Tim King Pg. 52

    "So the name of my consulting organization was at that time, and still is, Midwest Medical Legal Consultants, and that's a corporation. Yes, I do have employees. I have -- I have two nurses, two registered nurses and an office manager. The two registered nurses are -- well, one registered nurse is my wife. The other registered nurse is my daughter, who The third employee, the office director, is my daughter as well." ~Dr. Tim King Pg. 55

    Quotes from USA v Dr. Bauer  part 2  7/13/21

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